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    The primary factor in handgun calibers with respect to self defense is shot placement. Self defense situations generally occur well within 7 yds & practice should be focused within that range with reliable ammo to develop sight picture, with emphasis on the front blade, & recoil management related to shot placement in rapid fire mode - single, two handed, &/or off-handed grip...all more important with short barrel firearms. Each handgun is different in feel / use which you must adjust for each time it's handled / carried to be able to achieve the desired outcome. Low / limited light / night firing is another very different worthwhile exercise to develop shot placement if a location is available. Slow fire distance practice has purpose but does little to prepare for self defense encounters if that's the goal...
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    "...within 7 yds & practice should be focused within that range with reliable ammo to develop sight picture..."

    That may work for you, in general, but I had a the situation where someone broke into my external garage/shop and hauled away one of my welders. The distance between my basement door to the shop door is 50 feet, thus my requirement to hit a torso sized target at fifty feet. Yeah, I know, shooting to kill over a stolen tool won't hold up in court, but if I'm face to face with a thief, I'm not going to assume he is unarmed. If my math is correct, 7 yards is 21 feet, I don't feel the need to practice hitting a target at 21 feet. Others might have to practice hitting a target at that distance but I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarpia View Post
    "...within 7 yds & practice should be focused within that range with reliable ammo to develop sight picture..."

    That may work for you, in general, but I had a the situation where someone broke into my external garage/shop and hauled away one of my welders. The distance between my basement door to the shop door is 50 feet, thus my requirement to hit a torso sized target at fifty feet. Yeah, I know, shooting to kill over a stolen tool won't hold up in court, but if I'm face to face with a thief, I'm not going to assume he is unarmed. If my math is correct, 7 yards is 21 feet, I don't feel the need to practice hitting a target at 21 feet. Others might have to practice hitting a target at that distance but I don't.
    7 yds is consistent with my on-view & after action street experience...a general torso shot can still get you hurt. My on-duty handgun training extended out to 50 yds with expertise with a Browning Hi-Power or Colt Gold Cup but not a practical distance for civilians in most situations. The key factor in using deadly force is "being in imminent fear of your life" then being able to prove it...not so much a stolen property issue even if permissible requirements are met under a State statute...then there's the potential upcoming civil trial...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillACP View Post
    The key factor in using deadly force is "being in imminent fear of your life" then being able to prove it...not so much a stolen property issue even if permissible requirements are met under a State statute...then there's the potential upcoming civil trial...
    Yep ...... the old expression of “where the rubber meets the road” applies...... otherwise legally and financially your toast .....


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