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This is a discussion on My new AR 15.......... within the Long Guns forums, part of the Other Firearms category; Originally Posted by lefty60 Over the years I came to prefer a 6x for a hunting rifle. For the AR I'm thinking that I would ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefty60 View Post
    Over the years I came to prefer a 6x for a hunting rifle. For the AR I'm thinking that I would prefer a 1x-6x, but, might be able to make do with a 2x-7x. It will come down to how good the glass is v price. I would like to keep the cost to $300 +/-, sure don't want to spend more on glass than I spent on the rifle!
    Yeah, better glass coatings with improved light gathering / brightness makes a significant difference with the right objective with respect to value. Either choice would be a good one depending on what you might need related to the field of view, target, body movement magnification, etc....maybe split the difference with a 1 x 6.5. With older scopes, I don't like to make adjustments to power settings that may add an additional variable to any zero change once set on my hvy barrel...I'm just into exact shot placement. I loosen up a little with other more mobile equipment.
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    I'm usually on the lowest setting, 5 is about as high as I go, its the same as my range finder.

    Using the cheaper scopes you get alot less glare and a lot more light through on lower settings. Also got a much bigger fov.

    I have missed opportunities for deer in lowlight because I forgot to turn my scope down...

    I've made several 300yd + shots on 3x.
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    I guess a high power scope is alright for targets but when I'm hunting I still get excited enough I forget the dope...

    And when I don't I'm through hunting
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillACP View Post
    Yeah, better glass coatings with improved light gathering / brightness makes a significant difference with the right objective with respect to value. Either choice would be a good one depending on what you might need related to the field of view, target, body movement magnification, etc....maybe split the difference with a 1 x 6.5. With older scopes, I don't like to make adjustments to power settings that may add an additional variable to any zero change once set on my hvy barrel...I'm just into exact shot placement. I loosen up a little with other more mobile equipment.
    My eyes aren't as good as when I was younger, but, for shots under 100yds I don't want to lose the field of veiw that lower powers give. The glass has improved a bunch over the years so the quality has gone way up compaired to costs. My goal is, for a rifle, the first 3 shots to be touching at 100yds. Good glass and modern barrels make that fairly easy, most of the time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toney View Post
    I guess a high power scope is alright for targets but when I'm hunting I still get excited enough I forget the dope...

    And when I don't I'm through hunting
    I always carry the gun with the scope power turned all the way down, then, adjust as needed. A quick shot is easy to make on low power. The higher powers are for more deliberate shots, power adjusted as needed.
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    Well I finally made it to the range with the AR.......
    Got a good workout today figuring just how dumb I am. I must be losing some of my mental sharpness?

    Okay took 2- 20 round boxes of ammo and set up at 25 yards. Started shooting 3 round groups.
    I realised immediately I could not see the reticles very well in the sun...also could not see the arrow in the windage /elevation dials. Got help with that.
    Got close at 25 yds then moved out to 50. Then got my left/right and up/down confused.....went all over the place- Then I ran out of ammo.

    Got a box from the range and started over at 25 yards, but this time a single shot then adj left/right- til I got it right. THen single shot and adj up and down.
    Got it dead on at 50 yards - 2", then fired my last 2 rounds at 100 yards- good enough for me!
    Maybe I'll get my son to tune it up a little closer.....but this is good enough for zombies.

    Edit: On the 50 yard target, my group was inside the red- which is 2 inches.
    We just don't realize how much we move when shooting....but a paper target will tell you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgy Baby View Post
    Well I finally made it to the range with the AR.......
    Got a good workout today figuring just how dumb I am. I must be losing some of my mental sharpness?

    Okay took 2- 20 round boxes of ammo and set up at 25 yards. Started shooting 3 round groups.
    I realised immediately I could not see the reticles very well in the sun...also could not see the arrow in the windage /elevation dials. Got help with that.
    Got close at 25 yds then moved out to 50. Then got my left/right and up/down confused.....went all over the place- Then I ran out of ammo.

    Got a box from the range and started over at 25 yards, but this time a single shot then adj left/right- til I got it right. THen single shot and adj up and down.
    Got it dead on at 50 yards - 2", then fired my last 2 rounds at 100 yards- good enough for me!
    Maybe I'll get my son to tune it up a little closer.....but this is good enough for zombies.

    Edit: On the 50 yard target, my group was inside the red- which is 2 inches.
    We just don't realize how much we move when shooting....but a paper target will tell you.
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    American Eagle 55 gr 223 fmj, and Lucid H7 Gen 3 Red Dot. No power magnification.
    I put 60 rounds through it today.... finally got it close enough to use if necessary.
    I did not expect to shoot long range when I got it. But , I may explore a different optic for the next gun.
    This sight was about $210 with tax.

    I'll get it a little better next time. What really threw me off was getting the windage and elevation mixed up- more than once-and not being able to see the proper reticle at distance. This sight has 4 reticles, big circle (what I used most), tiny dot, horizontal cross-hair with dots, and funny looking vertical line with a roof on top.
    I'll get there...I was just surprised at how much trouble I had. The gun works fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgy Baby View Post
    American Eagle 55 gr 223 fmj, and Lucid H7 Gen 3 Red Dot. No power magnification.
    I put 60 rounds through it today.... finally got it close enough to use if necessary.
    I did not expect to shoot long range when I got it. But , I may explore a different optic for the next gun.
    This sight was about $210 with tax.

    I'll get it a little better next time. What really threw me off was getting the windage and elevation mixed up- more than once-and not being able to see the proper reticle at distance. This sight has 4 reticles, big circle (what I used most), tiny dot, horizontal cross-hair with dots, and funny looking vertical line with a roof on top.
    I'll get there...I was just surprised at how much trouble I had. The gun works fine.
    Being not quite where you want it is a great incentive to go back out & dial it in...it's only time & ammo... ...easy does it on the turns wuth those 1/2 MOA adjustments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgy Baby View Post
    American Eagle 55 gr 223 fmj, and Lucid H7 Gen 3 Red Dot. No power magnification.
    I put 60 rounds through it today.... finally got it close enough to use if necessary.
    I did not expect to shoot long range when I got it. But , I may explore a different optic for the next gun.
    This sight was about $210 with tax.

    I'll get it a little better next time. What really threw me off was getting the windage and elevation mixed up- more than once-and not being able to see the proper reticle at distance. This sight has 4 reticles, big circle (what I used most), tiny dot, horizontal cross-hair with dots, and funny looking vertical line with a roof on top.
    I'll get there...I was just surprised at how much trouble I had. The gun works fine.
    A 55gr can be sighted dead on at 36 yards and should be good for a head size target up to (IIRC) 200yds. You can check ballistics charts to confirm, if you know the velocity.
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