[erikmcm]

Ok, got rid of my PM9 last week(which was a week old) and decided to give Kahr another shot with it new P380, I payed top dollar for it on Gunbroker and expected it to be perfect.

First thing I noticed was attention to detail is off for a "super expensive 380" as minor as it is, It's ANNOYING....the white dot on the rear sight was painted lop-sided and off( Kahr has sent me a new one, but I will have to find someone to put it on)

I put 150rds of Federal-american eagle and then 50rds of Federal Hydra-shock ( yes, I have spent alot of money for this break in) 200 rds total and will say it failed probably about 3 times where the slide got stuck on the 3rd and I would have to hit the slide release, NO stove-pipes or anything like that....

On the Hydra-shocks, when I would chamber the first round, If I did not rack it with AUTHORITY it would get all jammed up...No issue's racking it with the Ball ammo ( Don't know if thats a hollow point thing???)

The gun shot well over all but I am hoping these few hitches are do to break-in?? I will say my Ruger LCP ran with out a hic-up since day-one and I'm wondering if I should have kept that at half the price?

Ruger has shown much better custoner service as well....When they did the recall, Ruger sent me so much free stuff and written letter of apology for the inconvienance.
When I sent my PM9 back cuz none of the Mags would drop free...They sent me back a SANDED out mag-well and called it "good"..... Well thats why I sold that gun....and lost alot of money in the process. Kahr seemed to care less, when I told them.

Kahr has not given me a warm & fuzzy by any means, but I am still gona give the P380 a chance.

Any similiar feedback from other's on this gun would be much appreciated. Thanks

 

[Ljutic]

Hey Erik, you should try the following for loading your first round. Open the slide and apply the slide stop. Insert the magazine, and drop the slide stop with your thumb. I believe this has been published by Kahr as the new standard operating procedure for loading the chamber. You may want to check the manual or their website to confirm.

Sorry to hear about your problems with the PM9. I've had the exact opposite experience that you have had. I bought a PM9 and P380 together recently. The PM9 has been flawless through over 300 rounds now of anything I put in it. It's larger than I would like, but hands down a great investment so far for a controllable and reliable large mouse gun.

My P380 has been a different story. A total failure out of the box as the slide would not fully return to battery 3 or more times per mag. I would literally have to push the slide closed with my thumb. I finally called it quits after 70+ rounds of breaking in. Kahr had me return the gun ($54 Fedex expense out of my pocket) to them. They wouldn't send out a call tag. Their service description read: REPLACED SLIDE STOP SPRING, RECOIL SPRING, POLISHED PARTS AS NEEDED. LUBED TEST FIRED GOOD. I have not had the chance to test the fixed pistol yet, but plan to this weekend.

I agree that these VERY premium priced 380s should have shipped out with better QA. I also agree that Kahr customer service is less than stellar.

 

[fra3]

I have had nothing but good luck then????? I have had my p380 and put several hundred down range without one single issue. I can rack it just fine and it chambers rounds perfectly with no FTF's FTE FTL not a hitch. My best friend has the Ruger LCP and it has been a nice pistol. It had a few hangups when he first got it but ok since then. My Father in Law has the PM9 and he trusts it with his life everyday, he even says it has been the most reliable pistol he has, which is saying alot because he has alot of pistols. I have plenty too but not as many as him. I am sorry you have had issues with your PM9 and maybe you might not be the luckiest with Kahr. They are pricey (compared to Ruger budget guns) but if you evaluate the composition of the two you will notice the construction is tops with the Kahr, not to mention the subtle triggger on the Kahr compared to the Ruger. The trigger on the Ruger was long and hard in a bad way. I find it much easier to keep the Kahr on target and follow up with an accurate shot with the P380 than the LCP. I really hope your luck turns around because this is a very reliable little shooter that is much more accurate than the LCP out of the box. I can say when the P380 was released it was a ghost and it still is very hard to get, not by accident either. The LCP is everywhere and on sale in each corner. Keep the Kahr shoot it alot and you will be happy you did. CHEERS! f3

 

[jocko]

wow, erik if your pM9 was a week old you could not have given it a 200 round break in. What was your issues? Your P380 is a miniature of the PM9 and trust me I have um both and I can rack my PM9 by hand 80% of the time and get no issues and I have over 25,000 rounds through it. My P380, that is another story, I cannot hand rack it hardly at all, but using the slide lock lever like the manual so states it works every time with any ammo. That P380 is just so so small and kahrs have the stoutest recoil sprigns of any g un on the market kand especiallyin the 380 class, none even come close. I can rack my lcp with my teeth ( a pun here) as it has 9# recoils springs in it, damn nearnone IMO.

Have noidea what your issues were in the pM9 but it seems to me you rushed the gun alittle . If you had issues, you cold have comeon this forum or on any kahr forum and got help, If you had issues hand racking, then that is shooter error, certainly not the guns fault.
Hope the P380 works out OK fo ryou but I bet it won't..