Discharge danger if dropped....

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halfmoonclip

Discussion Starter · Feb 1, 2011

Had a question about P380s specifically and Kahrs in general. Reputedly the little finger in the Glock trigger is partially to avoid a discharge if the trigger catches on something, but mostly to avoid a discharge if the gun is dropped muzzle up. The thinking is that inertia will carry the trigger to the rear, firing the gun.
Which led me to wonder if the Kahr, so Glock-like in many regards, has any such problem.
I realize that there is a firing pin block to stop the firing pin from flinging forward if dropped muzzle down.
What I'm wondering about is, what happens if a Kahr is dropped from a fair height and lands muzzle up. Would there be enough mass in the steel trigger for its inertia to fire the gun?
Thoughts?
Moon

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halfmoonclip

Discussion Starter · #2 · Feb 3, 2011

Okay, 35 reads and no opinions?
I'm not terribly worried about this; if it were a major problem, somebody would have tried to litigate Kahr out of business by now.
And I'm more than willing to be entirely wrong in the premise of my question.

Just idle curiosity on my part; my P380 is now the 'regular carry' gun, so I can't be sweating it too much.
Moon

Cokeman

· #3 · Mar 20, 2011

Don't gun makers have to submit to drop testing to sell guns in this country or at least in certain states?

Bobshouse

· #4 · Aug 3, 2015

Just in case your still waiting, California requires all guns placed on its "approved" list pass a drop test. The Kahr P380 and several other models manufactured by Kahr have passed the drop test and available here in California.

So if the great government of the state of California say its safe to drop your gun, I believe them. After all, they are here to protect us.

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Higgy Baby

· #5 · Aug 3, 2015

I wouldn't give it a 2nd thought-
The Karh is more similar to double action. The striker can not be charged unless the trigger is pulled. Plus the trigger action is long and 5.5#+
The glock is more similar to single action....the striker is "pre-charged" by the slide action, and the trigger is short and lighter.

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lefty60

· #6 · Aug 3, 2015

Non issue as far as I'm concerned. If you dropped a Kahr and it hit back end first there would have to be enough inertia to force the trigger to trigger cock the striker and then release it.

Don't drop your pistol!! :wink:

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BillACP

· #7 · Aug 3, 2015

Plus your pistol will hate you for the mistreatment

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KeeperOath

· #8 · Aug 4, 2015 (Edited)

Load all your Kahr Pistols. Stand on a chair. Throw each pistol to the floor one at a time, but after each pistol throw, jump off the chair and run like hell. Write down if the gun does or does not discharge your projectile. Repeat until you have tested each of your Kahr Pistols and noted if your pistol discharged or your pistols run out of ammo. Stop when either of these things happen.

When you have fully tested each of your pistol and was or was not hit, please tell what is your answer? If you do not give us your answer, the rest of us will know you were either killed or severely wounded during testing and unable to answer, so we should stop our testing and to take care not drop our Kahr Pistols. Thanks for participating in this test. :>)

Oh, Please post a video of your test on this Forum explaining your testing procedures and results. In the event you are not able to post said video, please have your nearest relative do so as soon as possible.

Thank you,.

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lefty60

· #9 · Aug 4, 2015

KeeperOath said:
Load all your Kahr Pistols. Stand on a chair. Throw each pistol to the floor one at a time, but after each pistol throw, jump off the chair and run like hell. Write down if the gun does or does not discharge your projectile. Repeat until you have tested each of your Kahr Pistols and noted if your pistol discharged or your pistols run out of ammo. Stop when either of these things happen.

When you have fully tested each of your pistol and was or was not hit, please tell what is your answer? If you do not give us your answer, the rest of us will know you were either killed or severely wounded during testing and unable to answer, so we should stop our testing and to take care not drop our Kahr Pistols. Thanks for participating in this test. :>)

Excellent testing procedure! Please add in a video tape requirement. :wink:

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BillACP

· #10 · Aug 4, 2015

Heh...Lefty's destructive test procedure warrants a sticky. ...

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lefty60

· #11 · Aug 4, 2015

Credit must be given to KeeperOath, I only want a video record for all of humanity to see! :wink:

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BillACP

· #12 · Aug 4, 2015

Seeing the exit strategy after the drop would be educational...entertaining...
Edit: per test procedure...

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BillACP

· #13 · Aug 4, 2015

lefty60 said:
Credit must be given to KeeperOath, I only want a video record for all of humanity to see! :wink:

Errr....I lost track using my cell...credit to keeperoath...

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mr380acp

· #14 · Aug 8, 2015

I dropped my p380 in the driveway from waist height, it was loaded and did not discharge...Scratched the slide..man was I mad!!!

lefty60

· #15 · Aug 8, 2015

mr380acp said:
I dropped my p380 in the driveway from waist height, it was loaded and did not discharge...Scratched the slide..man was I mad!!!

I've only dropped one gun ever! It was my CW40, landed muzzle down from about chest height. Didn't fire. I'm still traumatized!!!

It's hell to git old but the alternative is not very appealing! :wink:

Bobshouse

· #16 · Aug 8, 2015

mr380acp said:
I dropped my p380 in the driveway from waist height, it was loaded and did not discharge...Scratched the slide..man was I mad!!!

Now if you would of purchased the gun from my shop, we could of saved you the grief.

When purchasing a firearm we offer a "pre-scratch" service. For the low cost of 39.99, we will scratch your gun so you don't have to. Saves you a lot of pain and suffering waiting for that "first scratch".

For an additional 20.00, we can also include a "cheap looking blue job" to attempt and hide the scratch. Call for details!! BR549 or 867-5309.

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