This will most likely replace my LCP as my summer basketball shorts gun. ;D
I have zero doubts about that statement. apples and oranges. both guns will go bang, one just gives you the feel of a top quality well made and very accurate shooting gun. and I am not taking anything away from the lcp. For the money, u can't find a nicer gun than the lcp but for the money also you can't find a better gun than the P380.
Kennsteele ask about recoil. Here is my take on it. The recoil might be the same but it feels completly different. The high hand position to the center of the bore axis which kahr was able to do with thier guns due to the trigger assemble going down the side of hte barrel lug/eed ramp instead of under it. This gets ur hand higher up in the grip and almost right behind the bore axis. Kahrs has 7 patents on their guns and this trigger system is one of them. The perception of the recoil to me anyways is totally different..
Kahr will be coming out with a 7 round extended magazine which to me doesn't bend my crank but would make a nice range magazine and for some a nice carry magazine or extra carry magazine..
I love my PM9 and it willnot replace my jPM9 for 24/7 carry (I think) but it is such a well made gun and laying it next to my PM9 it looks like its twin in infinite stages.
AND NO DAMN SMILEYS either. kudos to kahr. they were told of this well over a year ago by some members of this forum and when they were first told about it. their reply back was "WHAT THE HELL IS A SMILEY"?? they did not know of this issue with the lcp and kt's (which is still there by the way) I think alot has to do with the offset feed ramp and the design of the magazines also. One side of the upper lip of the magazine is more filled in on the side, not sure if this helps or not but again NO SMILEYS.
I put 250 round sthrough it today and never even felt tired or anything and my last rounds out of this uncleaned gun was feeding just as good as the first rounds did. I have no doubt one cold fire 500 rounds with ease out of this gun. WhenI took it down this evening to clean and lube it, actually it was very very clean inside. I thik I could have run a bore snake down the barrel and preceeded to shoot untilt he cows came home....
I have decided to stay with the 102 grain golden sabre round due to the fact that I have two full boxes left and no other defense rounds. I like the corbon dpx rounds and find zero fault with them also.I jsut am not goingtog et caught up in all this defense ammo stuff, as they are all good. sooner or later one just has to choose a round and stick with it. Hopefully the BG willnever have to experience the effects of my 102 grain HP sarres..
I wold be very intereste dto know what poundage the recol springs are, as they are stout and the brass landed definitely within 5 feet of me also. Some hit me on the head a few times but not many.
Karh sure does love their magazine springs, I ordered some spares tonight and they are $12.10 each. That seems very expensive for magazine springs. the recoil spring set of two inner andouter) ar eonly $9.00 and I don['t forsee them needing replacement for wellover 1000 rounds. they are stout. \
I would recommend using the slide lock lever to load the first rund althugh I had no issue with rackign the slide. I would say I split it 50-50 today int he 250 rounds trials.
I like to be able to do it both ways. It can be done, jsut not a heh of alot of slide to grab hold of...
Accuracy, wellfor me it was amazing. I could keep a 4" group at 7 yards with ease and POA was dead on also.This I never got with my kt's or lcp. the sites are awesome to say the least. I will when avaailalbe put nites sites on my, for no reason other to say I have them on. Bet if they made those bifg dot nite sites it would look awesome.
The trigger system on the P380 compared to my kt's and lcp is totally apples and oranges . Kahrs are known for smooth trigger system with no staging and this gun is truly that...
The feed ramp as I reported I couldsee my face in it, OUT OFTHE BOX. I did nothing to it. I did tonight completley polish the entire barrel and outer chamber with my trusty dremel. No barrel peening either.
It is not ammo sensitive as I shot 5 different brands of ammo with zero issues. It is throated properly that all rounds feed perfectly and were not being forced into the barrel..
I have to agree with kraigster, this is one one fine handgun and they defnitely got it right to..