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Hello, my name is Bill and new to the Kahr forum. I'm posting due to I'm a little disappointed in Kahr. Purchased a Kahr CW 380 a few years back. Maybe put 100 rounds through it and having nothing but issues with it. Rounds wont eject manually, a lot of stove piping that need to be manually cleared. So I call Kahr and I'm told, there's only a year warranty on the weapon which I found a little odd due to just about all of the big boy firearms manufactures, have pretty much, life time warranties on their firearms.
So my question is, does anyone have the CW 380 and experiencing the same issues?
 

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Hello, my name is Bill and new to the Kahr forum. I'm posting due to I'm a little disappointed in Kahr. Purchased a Kahr CW 380 a few years back. Maybe put 100 rounds through it and having nothing but issues with it. Rounds wont eject manually, a lot of stove piping that need to be manually cleared. So I call Kahr and I'm told, there's only a year warranty on the weapon which I found a little odd due to just about all of the big boy firearms manufactures, have pretty much, life time warranties on their firearms.
So my question is, does anyone have the CW 380 and experiencing the same issues?
Welcome bill...... have you tried breaking in the gun by racking the slide a couple hundred times and lubing it well....... also what kind of ammo are you using as that size weapon can be ammo fussy...... Winchester white box is not a go with it....... use Remington or Federal etc......
 

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Hi Bill, I’ve just joined the forum. Your cw380 troubles caught my eye. Bought mine Jan. of ‘18, mine was very finicky with different shaped Ammo too. But after try several brands and bullet shapes, my troubles were feeding and some stovepipes, it seemed to loosen up some. Today it runs everything 100%. Stay with it and you should get past your troubles. I love mine and pocket carry it in uncle Mike’s pocket holster loaded with Underwood xtreme defender +P. Stros17 In south Louisiana
 

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What's the result on this?

I have had three Kahrs, an E9 from back in 2000 (later sold) and I currently have a P9 Covert (factory) and CW 45. The only of the three to have ammo issues was the E9 but I found 124 grain +P Corbon ran it very well.

Now I used to carry a Colt Pony Pocketlite for backup and CCW and it was very finicky. I recall it stovepiping fairly often with Winchester target loads....once during a "belly gun Hogan's Alley" match. It wasn't the best handgun and I eventually sold it.

My Covert was great out of the box and loves Sellier and Bellot 124 grain but won't feed the first round from the mag via hand cycle. I have to hit the rear of the slide for it to go into battery. It's dead on accurate though and feeds under recoil just fine.

I have shot Federal 115 grain +P+ in it without any issue and it needed no "break-in period."

My CW 45 was shot extensively by the previous owner who bought it new. It's a fabulous handgun and shoots pretty well with a Wilson Combat 8 round mag. I just seem to flinch some with it in my "later years." :undecided:
Yep...... sometimes you just need to find the ammo it likes and stick with it .....
 
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Hi Bill,
My CW380 had problems with failures to feed, fail to eject, & slide locking back before mag was empty. After 250 rounds (5 different types & brands of ammo) I sent it back to Kahr. They changed magazine springs, recoil springs, & polished the extractor. When I got it back it still had the slide lock problem. Kahr sent me a new spring & that took care of that. It cycled better but not reliably enough to trust carrying. Bought some Underwood ammo and chambered one round. Slide & barrel stopped 3/8" short of full forward. I had to use a lot of force to rack the slide back & eject the round. I stripped it down & dropped the round in the chamber & it wouldn't seat properly. It worked well in my P380, Rugers, Beretta 84F, PPKS, & Colt.
After 450 rounds, it's ammo fussy but I got it to work with the ammo I first used. Still can't trust it & put it up for consignment sale. I really wanted to like this gun.
Hope you have better luck with yours.
 

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Bill,
Some thoughts and a confession.
Thoughts. Kahr will tell you that there's a 250 round break-in period. Why? IDK. Many worthy competitors are reliable right out of the box.
Confession. I went through the same thing with my P380. Even after the break-in, it was still not cycling reliably. I sent it back. They did a few minor things and told me it was just fine. I was still having problems. Then I discovered the problem. It was USER ERROR. The pistol is so light that you really have to hold it tightly to make it cycle correctly. I always thought that a tight grip hurt marksmanship b/c it allowed your pulse to affect your aim. Not so with lightweight pistols. You need a firm grip.
 

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Yep, it's called limp wristing, and it can happen to anybody :)

There are several good threads here on breaking in a Kahr before your first trip. Essentially because Kahrs are built to such tight tolerances, and the short travel of the slide it takes some cycling of it to seat things in properly, as well as to remove any microscopic burrs on the mating surfaces. Cycling it by hand a few hundred times, and then letting the slide stay locked back for a day or two, and also letting your mags sit for the same amount of time fully loaded should normally result in success at the range when the weapon is otherwise new.
 

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I rigorously tested two CW380s. I REALLY wanted to like this model because it has such a great trigger and was effortless to keep on target while shooting quickly. However, I discovered quickly that it is extremely prone to limp wristing until about 1200 rounds when the recoil spring is well broken in. Unfortunately, at that point it is prone to not fully return to battery as the spring is at the end of its economic life.

There are several other 380s out there that aren’t susceptible to limp wristing at all and a gun intended for defensive purposes needs to function regardless of the quality of grip, in my opinion. It’s a shame, as the Kahr is ergonomically superior and has a much better trigger compared to every other 380 I’ve tried, and I’ve tried a lot of them...
 

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I rigorously tested two CW380s. I REALLY wanted to like this model because it has such a great trigger and was effortless to keep on target while shooting quickly. However, I discovered quickly that it is extremely prone to limp wristing until about 1200 rounds when the recoil spring is well broken in. Unfortunately, at that point it is prone to not fully return to battery as the spring is at the end of its economic life.

There are several other 380s out there that aren’t susceptible to limp wristing at all and a gun intended for defensive purposes needs to function regardless of the quality of grip, in my opinion. It’s a shame, as the Kahr is ergonomically superior and has a much better trigger compared to every other 380 I’ve tried, and I’ve tried a lot of them...
Well the truth is any subcompact gun is prone to limp wristing ........it’s a small gun... very light and slide is small with a light mass ..... so strong recoil spring required, hence a solid & sturdy grip is needed to support the gun so that it cycles properly ....


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As I said, I have thoroughly tested several other 380s to check their susceptibility to limp wristing, and they aren’t susceptible at all. They are: Bodyguard 380, Pico, LCP II. With a very loose one handed grip, shooting with non dominant hand, I could not make these 3 guns limp wrist no matter how hard I tried. I could make the CW380 limp wrist at least once per magazine using two different CW380s with multiple mags and multiple ammo brands and types, to include hollow points and FMJ.

The truth is, they are not all susceptible. But the Kahr CW380 is.
 

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That’s fine if you’re standing on the range, but in a defensive scenario, is your attacker going to take a timeout to allow you a perfect grip?
Proper grip is intuitive / automatic once you learn which saves time & avoids potential problems...you can improve grip to avoid recoil & alignment issues for quick developing defensive / tactical situations...from my training & working street experience...with proper grip you can use front sight only quickly & accurately close range - especially in rapid fire regardless of caliber...
 
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