Did you try it at the range yet? Any feed problems? When shooting with an extended mag, I try to keep my fingers off the extension. I wonder if gripping the floorplate pinky rest causes problems.

 

Looks great........

 

You should subcontract out to Kahr Arms Accessories store....

 

Haha. Yeah. They have the resources and could prepare to have these plates produced in a day. Oh wait, it has to go through committee, several luncheons, the bean counters, design, production schedules, and inventory management, so we'd better give these folks a month or two to get this to market.

:crazysmile:

 

No range time yet. I can't imagine there will be any problems since this is a Kahr magazine that I've been using. The pinkie rest is pretty small but you can squeeze your fingers together to use it as a rest. For my normal size hands I can get half a pinkie on it, or wrap the pinkie under the baseplate as I normally would. As for magazine play, there's no more vertical play, but you can wiggle it side to side as before. The top round in the magazine rests on the stripper bar, as before, and there's enough mag spring play to allow 6 rounds. I'll be surprised if there are feed problems, but will be trying it soon.

 

I had a little trouble with my metal bottom sliding off to easy. I had crimped it down some and was testing the fit pushing on it with my thumb.

Took two days to find my lock plate...

I used a pf9 bottom set until I found mine.

 

Ha! I've had several parts that have flown to no telling where. nthego:

Ok, people, I'm heading to the range tomorrow, even if it is a weekend. I'm going to abuse this magazine just to see if I can get it to fail to lock up, or drop out using tricks the RSO's probably wouldn't want to see. I'm thinking it will stay in place, but you never know, right. Stay tuned.

 

Ok gents! This is all well and good. And I must say a job well done!

Now here is my two bits ($00.25) worth, now remember that you are really paying nothing for my opinion, other than time spent reading it. :crazysmile:

For a pistol that is meant for self defense/fighting, a nice tight/close fit for the mag base plate may not be such a good idea. I'm talking: base plate snuggled up to bottom of grip.

There needs to be a little extra clearance too provide for the presence of Mr. Murphy. At the most inappropriate times he will provide help with something that will use up your close fitting tolerance, and the mag WILL NOT SEAT properly.

Do you really want to take a chance when your life is on the line??? Of course if you are close enough your pistol will make an OK striking tool.

And for those that believe that you will only need the mag that is in the gun I will say, feel free to research defense shootings. If you only have 5-8 rounds in your pistol there is a good chance that a reload is in order.

Some thing to think about.

"Do as you please 'cause you will anyway" :crazysmile:

 

You owe me a quarter! I charge .50 to read replies, and your "bits" are .25, so there ya go! Wow, I might need to go public with this money making idea. LOL

Hey, I completely agree. I left no "tolerance" leeway, ie, there's no magazine body exposed, and no extra up/down play. But damn, this is so cool looking anyway, right?

Here's a couple more pics to help you change your mind. When I get this to the range (soon) I will be a little more confident that I didn't screw anything up. Er, unless I did. And if I did I will blame it all on Hillary's race for the Presidency. Yeah, that's the ticket...

Ohhh, ahhh....

 

Will do. Truth be known, I think I do these things just for another excuse to go to the range for "testing."

 

Rest assured that you are not alone in doing such things :wink:

 

Your comment:
"And if I did I will blame it all on Hillary's race for the Presidency. Yeah, that's the ticket... "

I like her handling of her "race" like Obama....from behind.
Good pictures btw.

 

Your comment:
"And if I did I will blame it all on Hillary's race for the Presidency. Yeah, that's the ticket... "

I like her handling of her "race" like Obama....form behind.
Good pictures btw.

Indeed, Excellent photos

As to good 'ol Hilly, :thumbsd::growl:

 

To follow up on Lefty's concern of not being able to get the mag out of grip. At the range this happened and I honestly could not remove the Mag. All the while thinking to myself what if I really needed to reload for the bad guy. Although it happened at the range it was an eye opener. I thought for while if it happened again I would seriously consider cutting in matching rh/lh finger cutouts at the bottom of the grip. As it turned out that was the single time I had that problem. Having said that there was a time when I had a hard time pushing hard enough on the mag release, a really hard time. The reason for this was I hadn't cleaned the gun the last two times I went to the range. As soon as I cleaned it though all problems went away. I had read that it wasn't really necessary to clean right away and I didn't. Lesson learned.

 

You know I carry at least two pistols.

 

Two is one and One is none! :wink:

 

That's pretty cool Smokemup! I did something similar, check post #30 on the link below.

Metal Magazine Followers For 9mm Kahrs!! - Page 3

 

It does look good! :wink:

 

Back from testing the SmokemPlate magazine today. 50 rounds of PMC Bronze FMJ (9A) and 50 rounds of PMC Bronze HP (9B). This danged Kahr PM9193 just refuses to have any failures! And no problems with the custom magazine floor plate (base plate?). I remain impressed. No, not with this magazine test, but with the accuracy of this tiny gun. As for the magazine, it locked up solidly every time, and no feed issues. I threw some Federal Tactical HST downrange as well, but only 7 rounds just to cycle my carry ammo. Love that stuff.

In summary, this custom magazine is pretty nice, but not a deal breaker from owning a PM9 or any variant. My CM9 was every bit as reliable. I may contact some aftermarket folks, like Pearce, to see if they might be interested in producing a base plate for the Kahr. They could even allow a bit more 'tolerance' just for manufacturing variances and it will still look 100% better than what the Kahr geniuses have offered.

I took my other "failure free" gun (XDS-45) to the range today only to be subjected to 6 failures in 75 rounds. Crap! Each problem the exact same with failure to feed. PMC Bronze 230gr FMJ. I was upset at myself for not bringing some HST to the range, but it was a last minute decision to take the 45.

All in all a good day and much better than my morning of pushing a mower in this incredible east coast heat wave.

 

Back from testing the SmokemPlate magazine today. 50 rounds of PMC Bronze FMJ (9A) and 50 rounds of PMC Bronze HP (9B). This danged Kahr PM9193 just refuses to have any failures! And no problems with the custom magazine floor plate (base plate?). I remain impressed. No, not with this magazine test, but with the accuracy of this tiny gun. As for the magazine, it locked up solidly every time, and no feed issues. I threw some Federal Tactical HST downrange as well, but only 7 rounds just to cycle my carry ammo. Love that stuff.

In summary, this custom magazine is pretty nice, but not a deal breaker from owning a PM9 or any variant. My CM9 was every bit as reliable. I may contact some aftermarket folks, like Pearce, to see if they might be interested in producing a base plate for the Kahr. They could even allow a bit more 'tolerance' just for manufacturing variances and it will still look 100% better than what the Kahr geniuses have offered.

I took my other "failure free" gun (XDS-45) to the range today only to be subjected to 6 failures in 75 rounds. Crap! Each problem the exact same with failure to feed. PMC Bronze 230gr FMJ. I was upset at myself for not bringing some HST to the range, but it was a last minute decision to take the 45.

All in all a good day and much better than my morning of pushing a mower in this incredible east coast heat wave.

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Sounds great...........you may have found the holy grail of kahr base plates.......?

 

Sweet............

 

I celebrated today's day with a fancy bottle of cheap red wine. But crap, this type of thing happens all too often... Help me, people, help!

 

I celebrated today's day with a fancy bottle of cheap red wine. But crap, this type of thing happens all too often... Help me, people, help!

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Well...........you know my kind of help ( when it comes to this kind of thing ).........I reccommend you stay the course........and carry on........time for a refill...........more wine please...!!!!!!!!

 

I'm Sorry I'm late to the party. Looks good. As an alternative to the DB's, you might want to consider the Pearce magazine extensions. I take those and shave about half the extension away, and they look and feel good.

 

With the scarcity of DB9 magazines, you're probably right. There's bound to be other baseplates out there as well. I shot the 9193 again today and once again, zero issues. Magazine is fine. Gun remains at 100% and eerily accurate. It's not fair to other manufacturers! :notfair:

:wink:

 

I can't recall that I've ever dropped a mag including quals on a PPC course...just don't want to take the potential risk of a malfunction resulting in unseen damage from a high mag drop on a hard surface...cost a rookie his life when a suspect shot him with the rookie partner's 9mm who had been shot previously by the suspect during a traffic stop. The suspect tried to finish off the partner / FTO after killing the rookie but the next round didn't feed from the mag which had a very small crack causing a feed issue - suspect died later in other action.

Lefty brings up another good point on retaining a mag with ammo remaining depending on your situation under fire....& no situation is ever the same in how you may have to deal with it...

 

A good example. Not good that the Officer died.

 

Armed robbery had just occurred & officers had just got out of the squad car a few seconds before suspect / car info was put out through dispatch... Yep - bad timing...

 

Bad timing indeed, Mr. Murphy at work! Sometimes unwanted stuff just happens, It sucks when a Good Guy suffers from it!

 

I sure didn't like letting them drop on the concrete BUT,,,,this was at the direction of the instructor. His justification was you don't have time to worry over a spent mag. Get the other one in quickly.
For the record I concur with all your input.

As in everything, the moment all is happening determines what to do.

 

Sure, if life threatening you can dump a fully spent mag - if you're still standing / living to go for another - what the instructors don't tell you. Otherwise as in training, etc., try to retain the mag but if you must drop, make it the top of your foot...

 

I'm not dropping a magazine on anything but heavily padded shag carpet and I don't care how much I paid for the training class! LOL. Correct me if this is wrong, but someone on the internet said that during a gunfight you simply call "TIME" and everyone must stop for mag changes. I may have misunderstood.... :thumbsu:

 

I think during a gunfight or war, that moment of silence or peace if you will............is when everyone stops to reload...,,,,,,,,,!!!!!!

 

During training & / or qualification on a timed PPC course, I would either drop a mag on top of my shoe or quickly stick the empty mag in my waist behind my belt as I grabbed a charged mag nearby. If a civilian is forced into a deadly force situation & has to stop for a mag change, then a serious problem exists & probably won't survive to make the mag change....

 

My only 'formal' training was the military. It doesn't work well in civilian life, though, cause I haven't found a way to conceal a 5" gun turret, let alone the Mk37 gun fire control system. Going to need much larger pockets!!

 

I like where your going with this

 

Some malfunctions (auto loader) require that the mag be ripped out to clear the malfunction. Soooo, If your default reload is: Reload with retention, you will use the same process for clearing a malfunction and/or a normal reload. Using the same process for both will mean that you don't have to think about what you're doing, you will just do it.

Of course you must PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, until it is automatic, then practice some more.

:wink:

 

Drop........tap ....rack......reloaded.......shoot.......!!!!

 

My Kahr Pistols are nothing more than Cool Tools that I simply love. As long as they keep me fed, housed, clothed, safe, warm and protected I really don't give a damn if they aren't beautiful firearms and the shoes don't fit the suit. I will always take Mary Ann over Ginger any day. My Kahr Pistols have everything I need to fill my needs just they way they are. Now if Mary Ann goes from a C to a D, I will not complain. :>)

 

Damn, send me a sample of whatever it is you're taking! I need to live in that world. :nurse:

 

I had a person on another forum concerned about being able to grab the base plate to get a stuck mag out. So, I did a model that can be printed on a 3D printer for him. It is pictured below and is the width of the grip of a PM9:

I have also made a few that are the size of a small grip extension that allow an extra round in what was a 6 round magazine. It is much less length than the Kahr 7 round magazine.

 

I had a person on another forum concerned about being able to grab the base plate to get a stuck mag out. So, I did a model that can be printed on a 3D printer for him. It is pictured below and is the width of the grip of a PM9:

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I have also made a few that are the size of a small grip extension that allow an extra round in what was a 6 round magazine. It is much less length than the Kahr 7 round magazine.

Looks great...............good idea !!!