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Greetings...I thought I'd post a report of my recently acquired PM9 (MA compliant). I got an urge to add a 'micro 9' to my carry rotation with either a SA 911, Sig P938 or a Kimber EVO, that is, until I stumbled on a used PM9 at one of my local shops. Tagged at $319 ($348 out the door) with original box and three magazines, very clean but used, it was a no brainer to jump on it. I have never owned or even shot a Kahr gun before but I knew that had a unique design that was highly regarded.

After the ten day wait, I took possession of the PM9. I added the MagGuts spring and follower making one of the 6 round magazines into a 7 rounder. I added the Hogue slip on sleeve intended for the Sig P365 and a Pearce extension to the now 7 round magazine. I polished the receiver section of the barrel so it looks cool. I ordered from Kahr new springs (striker and striker block safety) so the pull would be reduced to stock value, approx. 5 lbs, from the MA Compliant mandatory 10 lbs. (plus loaded chamber indicator and external safety)

When I received the gun, I measured the trigger pull at 5 lbs, apparently somewhere in it's history, the lower force springs were installed. Due to the covid19 shutdown, my range was closed until yesterday so I finally got the chance to pop off a few rounds today. I had a bunch of my reloads (115 and 124 JHP's with HS6, HP38, IMR-700X, Unique). The PM9 worked perfectly, all rounds chambered, fired and ejected. It did not have any significant snap for a short barrel gun at 9mm. My goal was to get a feel for the trigger, recoil and overall functionality of the gun, I was not concerned about accuracy. My requirement for accuracy of any carry gun is to group all rounds into a torso sized target at 50 feet.

Bottom line: The PM9 is one very sweet gun, no regrets, highly recommended if you are looking for a 'micro 9'. The Kahr designers got this gun right, as a former college professor, I give them a Grade-A!

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PM9 compared to a Sig P238....
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(Here in Washington State, with a CCW we used to be able to buy a handgun and walk out after an immediate OK from the WA DOJ. But thanks to Michael Bloomberg's millions and antigun politics, the left wing liberals that run this looney state managed to pass a new law that requires a 10 day wait, or cooling off period. Frankly, I'm OK with a first time buyer who might actually need a cooling off period but it makes no sense for a current gun owner to wait ten days. If you are intending to do harm, then you already have the means to do it. In my case, I waited 12 days to get approval meanwhile there are 44 other hand guns and 7 rifles in my locker...duh!)
 

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Greetings...I thought I'd post a report of my recently acquired PM9 (MA compliant). I got an urge to add a 'micro 9' to my carry rotation with either a SA 911, Sig P938 or a Kimber EVO, that is, until I stumbled on a used PM9 at one of my local shops. Tagged at $319 ($348 out the door) with original box and three magazines, very clean but used, it was a no brainer to jump on it. I have never owned or even shot a Kahr gun before but I knew that had a unique design that was highly regarded.

After the ten day wait, I took possession of the PM9. I added the MagGuts spring and follower making one of the 6 round magazines into a 7 rounder. I added the Hogue slip on sleeve intended for the Sig P365 and a Pearce extension to the now 7 round magazine. I polished the receiver section of the barrel so it looks cool. I ordered from Kahr new springs (striker and striker block safety) so the pull would be reduced to stock value, approx. 5 lbs, from the MA Compliant mandatory 10 lbs. (plus loaded chamber indicator and external safety)

When I received the gun, I measured the trigger pull at 5 lbs, apparently somewhere in it's history, the lower force springs were installed. Due to the covid19 shutdown, my range was closed until yesterday so I finally got the chance to pop off a few rounds today. I had a bunch of my reloads (115 and 124 JHP's with HS6, HP38, IMR-700X, Unique). The PM9 worked perfectly, all rounds chambered, fired and ejected. It did not have any significant snap for a short barrel gun at 9mm. My goal was to get a feel for the trigger, recoil and overall functionality of the gun, I was not concerned about accuracy. My requirement for accuracy of any carry gun is to group all rounds into a torso sized target at 50 feet.

Bottom line: The PM9 is one very sweet gun, no regrets, highly recommended if you are looking for a 'micro 9'. The Kahr designers got this gun right, as a former college professor, I give them a Grade-A!




PM9 compared to a Sig P238....


(Here in Washington State, with a CCW we used to be able to buy a handgun and walk out after an immediate OK from the WA DOJ. But thanks to Michael Bloomberg's millions and antigun politics, the left wing liberals that run this looney state managed to pass a new law that requires a 10 day wait, or cooling off period. Frankly, I'm OK with a first time buyer who might actually need a cooling off period but it makes no sense for a current gun owner to wait ten days. If you are intending to do harm, then you already have the means to do it. In my case, I waited 12 days to get approval meanwhile there are 44 other hand guns and 7 rifles in my locker...duh!)
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I thought I'd heard about safeties being available for the Kahr, but I'd never seen one before. The PM9 is a great little gun, quite accurate and easy to shoot. Congratulations. Sorry to hear about the Bloomberg effect hitting your state.
 

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Welcome to the board Scarpio!

If I had to have a safety on a Kahr I wouldn't mind that one, it's in the proper place and has the proper configuration.

I hear you about I-1639. I don't like having to leave a new purchase behind either, especially after close to 40 years of walking out with them after paying. That being said my last two, also here in WA State took only 4 days. The one before that I picked up without approval at the end of the 10th business day.
 

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Welcome to the board Scarpio!

If I had to have a safety on a Kahr I wouldn't mind that one, it's in the proper place and has the proper configuration.
I agree .... but it appears that you push down on the safety to engage it and upwards to disengage...... which is the opposite of a 1911 safety..... that would mess up an old timer (like me) used to shooting a 1911 ?
 

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I agree .... but it appears that you push down on the safety to engage it and upwards to disengage...... which is the opposite of a 1911 safety..... that would mess up an old timer (like me) used to shooting a 1911 ?
Yep... & the MA compliant didn't stay on the market long it appears...I would definitely get myself hurt with that setup!
 

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Yep... & the MA compliant didn't stay on the market long it appears...I would definitely get myself hurt with that setup!
I mean yeah big time ........ now if you have really never Shot a 1911 then you would be fine with that safety and or you would have to really practice your azz off to be safe (competent) with it....even then for me when I do the grab and ready to go grip its automatic, and like you bill, I would definitely get hurt with that as well .....
 
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I wonder why Kahr did the safety that way....... maybe due to the guns internal workings it was more feasible ?
Even on my cheap azz beater Taurus Millennium G2, which has a safety .... it works same as a 1911 .... or I wouldn't have bought it ?
 

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I wonder why Kahr did the safety that way....... maybe due to the guns internal workings it was more feasible ?
Even on my cheap azz beater Taurus Millennium G2, which has a safety .... it works same as a 1911 .... or I wouldn't have bought it ?
The nickel Mauser HSc (Interarms) I carried off-duty had a safety that was more of an end of thumb push forward to flip up as it was much further forward - very intuitive to use in this configuration...no side slide release (mag actuated). The location further back on the frame & angle of the Kahr version with more of an upward movement is what I couldn't easily adjust to in carrying 1911's...at least from a visual perspective.
 

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I've become unable to understand much of what Kahr does (and doesn't do), these days. Though in this case it would not surprise me to learn that MA had input into how the mechanism functions.
Who knows ....... I think they as are other gun makers moving to designs with features that would be appreciated or considered desirable by the casual gun purchasers in today’s market ?
 

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Update....I haven't taken the PM9 to the range since my first posting. Today, I had some 9mm rounds I wanted to test with my M&P Shield 9 (V1.0) so I tossed the PM9 in the range bag and off I went. Same results, the PM9 was spot on at 50 feet, that is, a torso sized target would have been well ventilated by the PM9. What a sweet shooting gun. I have decided to bump it up a notch in the carry rotation. I tend to carry big bore guns in 40S&W, 45ACP and occasionally a snubby in 357 Mag (Rossi 461); however, after today's session, they will be set aside for the time being in favor of the PM9.

Everything I read and all videos I've seen on the Kahr guns are true. That DA trigger is super smooth, frankly, it feels to me no different than any striker fired trigger and not like a revolver type DA. Yes, it's a challenge to break down and reassemble. Not impossible but not all that easy either. The fit and finish of the gun is superb.

If anyone is following this thread wanting to learn something about the Kahr PM9 or other Kahr models, it is highly recommended. I will keep an eye open for another Kahr, possibly a K9. Stay tuned...
 

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I'm surprised by your description of the trigger Scarpia. I've never thought of them to be like a striker fired gun's trigger, which typically have a short, light take up to the wall followed by a click. Whereas the Kahrs are long and smooth with no indication of when the trigger will break, unless you're very familiar with it and you can sort of anticipate it based solely on the length of the pull.
 

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I'm surprised by your description of the trigger Scarpia. I've never thought of them to be like a striker fired gun's trigger, which typically have a short, light take up to the wall followed by a click. Whereas the Kahrs are long and smooth with no indication of when the trigger will break, unless you're very familiar with it and you can sort of anticipate it based solely on the length of the pull.
I shoot at my outdoor range in two scenarios...one is to sit at the bench trying to sort out accuracy of my loads and shooting technique...slowly pull the trigger to the wall, gun fires, slowly let the trigger reset and fire again...check where the bullet impact was, readjust aim if necessary and repeat. The other is to stand and blast away at a target set on a berm 50+ feet down range. The idea there is to duplicate a more realistic self defense shooting scenario. In that case, trigger pull is rapid, I'm definitely not slowly pulling the trigger, feeling the wall, listening to and feeling the reset, all I want is the bullets to impact a torso sized target. The PM9's trigger doesn't feel any different than say, my M&P Shield 9 or Ruger SR9C triggers when I stand there and blast away.
 

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The primary factor in handgun calibers with respect to self defense is shot placement. Self defense situations generally occur well within 7 yds & practice should be focused within that range with reliable ammo to develop sight picture, with emphasis on the front blade, & recoil management related to shot placement in rapid fire mode - single, two handed, &/or off-handed grip...all more important with short barrel firearms. Each handgun is different in feel / use which you must adjust for each time it's handled / carried to be able to achieve the desired outcome. Low / limited light / night firing is another very different worthwhile exercise to develop shot placement if a location is available. Slow fire distance practice has purpose but does little to prepare for self defense encounters if that's the goal...
 
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