I have put 1000+ rounds through each of these pistols. They are both fine pistols. Recoil is greater with the LCP. The grip is shorter making it a bit harder to hold onto. Sights and trigger are better on the P380 making it easier for me to shoot accurately. Accuracy is a secondary consideration as I doubt I'll take either squirrel hunting. So far, reliability has been better with my LCP. Good luck. Both are winners.
Recoil LCP vs P380?
Thinking of "pulling the trigger" and buying one or the other of these guns. I am very recoil sensitive also cost sensitive so the question for those who own both, which is the easiest to shoot? It would be worth the extra money to me if there is a big difference.
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P380 trumps the lcp in every way possable...
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Except price Jocko. And for $300 plus or minus, the LCP IMHO, is the best in its price category. All the early bugs are worked out and mine has proven to be an outstanding, reliable shooter. The P380 takes you to a higher level - if you are willing to spend the change, it's worth every penny.
Heavier gun means less recoil - not true across the board but true in the case of the P380 vs. the LCP.
Heavier gun means less recoil - not true across the board but true in the case of the P380 vs. the LCP.
not enough difference in weight on the P380 and lcp, IMO. I think the biggest difference is the low bore axis of the kahr over the lcp. That has always been one trait of kahrs for shoot ability.
Price always matter as u know. the lcp is a good gun for what it is to, certainly miles ahead of the kt's in the same configeration and price range but as you know the lcp really went through some hellaiious growing pains to.
So far the kahr P380 has not had that across the board problem and there are enough of them out there that if major problems were there, it would have popped up by now. They have had a few bad busted magazine but that is vendor issues more than design flaws in the gun. I think they slide lock issue of pre matrue slide locking open is behind them, although mine will still not shoot the 102 grain golden sabres due to just to big of a bullet, but like I have stated to, There are just to many good other defense round sout there tolet them little issue get anyome pis-ed over the gun.
I hate it though when a reader states , well I can buy 3 lcp for the price of one P380, yup you can and now what the hell are you going to do with 3 lcp's???
to many other "good" guns are also ammo sensitive and we seem to accept that as a norm , so my motto is "just shoot it like you stole it"..
Price always matter as u know. the lcp is a good gun for what it is to, certainly miles ahead of the kt's in the same configeration and price range but as you know the lcp really went through some hellaiious growing pains to.
So far the kahr P380 has not had that across the board problem and there are enough of them out there that if major problems were there, it would have popped up by now. They have had a few bad busted magazine but that is vendor issues more than design flaws in the gun. I think they slide lock issue of pre matrue slide locking open is behind them, although mine will still not shoot the 102 grain golden sabres due to just to big of a bullet, but like I have stated to, There are just to many good other defense round sout there tolet them little issue get anyome pis-ed over the gun.
I hate it though when a reader states , well I can buy 3 lcp for the price of one P380, yup you can and now what the hell are you going to do with 3 lcp's???
to many other "good" guns are also ammo sensitive and we seem to accept that as a norm , so my motto is "just shoot it like you stole it"..
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Bernie, bore axis may have something to do with it but in this little gun (P380), I think the added weight is more of a deciding factor in how the gun feels not to be argumentative. True, the difference in weight is relatively minor between the two but in these small platforms, it can make a difference for sure - just my opinion. Bottom line, it's what you are willing to get used to, what features are more important to you etc. etc. I alternate between my LCP and P380 and there are days when I like one better than the other.
1.6 ounces different, it might make a difference?????? but the P380 is actually smaller even to.
I neve like my lcp better than shooting my P380, just nothing there that out does the P380, other than price.
I neve like my lcp better than shooting my P380, just nothing there that out does the P380, other than price.
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Jocko, I am not going to argue with you. I think it's a combination of both, I'd give more "weight to the weight" but who's counting. Individual shooters experience different sensations. I am sorry I brought it up. Whatever the cause, if folks experience less kick with the P380 that's a good thing. For me, these are both pocket compadres, close and upfront weapons, most people won't shoot either a lot so I don't consider recoil a big issue one way or the other.
I never considered recoil an issue on either 380's. some people are definitely more recoil sensitive than others. I worked with jackhammer sin my younger days so recoil to me is zero. were not arguing Rich, just discussing difference of opinions. I out of curiosity wrote Oothar to see if they make alltheir kahr barrels either here in georgia or in Germany where their home base is. their answer was both places...kraigster414 said:Jocko, I am not going to argue with you. I think it's a combination of both, I'd give more "weight to the weight" but who's counting. Individual shooters experience different sensations. I am sorry I brought it up. Whatever the cause, if folks experience less kick with the P380 that's a good thing. For me, these are both pocket compadres, close and upfront weapons, most people won't shoot either a lot so I don't consider recoil a big issue one way or the other.
Jocko: I'm trying to determine how you came up with 1.6 oz. difference in weight. Got the following information from the manufacturers websites: LCP weight=9.4 oz.; Kahr P380=9.97 oz.
yup ur right, I was looking at the Kt 380 specsP7 said:Jocko: I'm trying to determine how you came up with 1.6 oz. difference in weight. Got the following information from the manufacturers websites: LCP weight=9.4 oz.; Kahr P380=9.97 oz.
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Perhaps the offset design of the barrel helps reduce recoil. But what do I know, an article in Police Magazine thinks so.....
http://www.kahr.com/PA-1B/review_ple0609.html
What I really like is the much better trigger in the P380 that makes recoil painless for me (compared to other 380s).
The only disagreement with the gunzine writers I have is that disassembly is not easy for me. I have to use a punch to get the slide lock pin started out. The punch I use is a plastic golf tee with the tip cut off, making it flat. This works good and avoids damage to the pin or surrounding frame.
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http://www.kahr.com/PA-1B/review_ple0609.html
What I really like is the much better trigger in the P380 that makes recoil painless for me (compared to other 380s).
The only disagreement with the gunzine writers I have is that disassembly is not easy for me. I have to use a punch to get the slide lock pin started out. The punch I use is a plastic golf tee with the tip cut off, making it flat. This works good and avoids damage to the pin or surrounding frame.
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I think over time that slide release will come out eqasier to. Course as u know that is just a nit picking thing to, as they are not designed to just fall out. I can push my PM9 pin out with ease and my P380 (now). I can't on my K9 but that again doesn't bother me. I can even take a rn bullet and push my K9 slide lock lever out, so I have my toools with meat all times..
Glad you got a P380 gramps, now shoot it like u stole it and give us some good reports..
Glad you got a P380 gramps, now shoot it like u stole it and give us some good reports..
I have about the same perceived recoil shooting Buffalo Bore through the P380 as shooting regular ammo through the LCP. The P380 has a wider trigger and doesn't bite your finger while shooting. You get what you pay for.
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