And what the wifey will allow... :kraigster414 said:
Mike
And what the wifey will allow... :kraigster414 said:How could we not provide a link to our sister site.:
It's hard to beat the LCP for $300 give or take unless of course you are willing to jump to a P380. Bottom line, two fine guns, two price points, two good companies backing you up, it's all about needs and wants.
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Screw the wife - and I do often. ...But, buy what you want.bradxxxx said:And what the wifey will allow... :
Mike
I think the Diamondbacks ergonomics are better than the Lcp......but reliability on the Diamondback is sketchy........you either get a good one, and your golden or you get a lemon and your f___ked.....!!!I'm taking a diamondback 380 over the Lcp. Just my $.02
Yeah the Tomcat is a classic Beretta design......it just has that bit of "wow that's a sweet looking gun" factor about it ...... My brother has one and it's a beauty.......it's one of those I want one bad, even though I don't need it kind of guns......just because it's classic....I looked long and hard before I bought a new pocket pistol. I talked to a lot of cops, about 60% of those carried the LCP. When I asked why, I got a lot of answers, but the two that stuck out were the rock-solid reliability, and the fact that the local gunshop was giving them a price of a few pennies over cost. Literally, they were making 3 - 5 dollars per gun they sold the cops. made it up, I'm sure in ammo sales, and repeat business. So I shot and handled the LCP. I shot and handled the S&W Bodyguard. I lusted over the Kimber .380, I even went so far as to try the Taurus Curve, but could NOT bring myself to carry something that darn silly looking.
My only complaint about the LCP came after shooting the Kahr. The grip seemed to taper, front to back toward the magazine well. I KNOW it doesn't, but it sort of felt that way. The Kahr actually seems to do the opposite. And the sights are rather on the minimalist side. What made my decision was the fact that the Base Exchange (PX) had an LCP in stock for $305.00, and a CW 380 for only $311.00. I took a deep breath, presented my wallet, and am so glad I did. Would I have been happy with the Ruger? Damn skippy!. How about the S&W? Again, same answer. Wanted the Kimber so bad it hurt, but almost $800.00 for a single action pocket rocket, just seemed to be a bit self-indulgent, over-the-top, and anyway, my wife would have castrated me!
This is just my 2 cents worth, and it probably ain't worth that much. If anyone I know buys an LCP, a Bodyguard, even a Curve, and is willing to practice drawing and shooting with it, I applaud their choice.
I do have to make a confession here, What I really wanted, and still want, and will probably still buy, is a stainless steel Beretta Tomcat in .32ACP. Yeah, I know all about the lack of stopping power, etc, but I think it's a really cool pistol, and just want one. As soon as they move their production from the Socialist State of Maryland, and start cranking them out again, I WILL buy one!
I'm guessing, No! :banghead: I am also a Ruger fan, however the only one that I have at this time is a SR9c which I pocket carry! :crazysmile:
I had the opportunity to check one out a few weeks ago when I was at the gun shop picking out my revolver.......there was a guy next to me looking at a diamondback 380 and the old style lcp and the new lcp2 .........he asked my advice as to which one I liked ........ I told him to forget the diamondback, and when I compared the new lcp2 to the older version, the trigger was much improved and the gun seemed to be a little nicer.......so I said if I was gonna buy one it would be the new model........that's what he ended up buying.......personally though I still think the kahr cw380 is a nicer gun.......smoother trigger and better ergonomics............so to each his own ?
I shot my son's lcp and agree ....... They are a solid dependable gun that doesn't seem to be ammo fussy........they aren't a fun gun to shoot a lot at the range......they do beat on your hand......the kahr is smoother shooting and doesn't beat you up shooting it......the one thing that is an issue for some, is the kahr can be ammo fussy....but there is plenty of good practice and SD ammo that runs well in it.....so I don't consider that a real problem with the gun......and of course ymmv........The Trigger on the LCP Gen2 is a nice Trigger. Very similar to the Kahr. Many LCP fans were NOT happy with the new trigger of the LCP ll. I shot the gun and I will just say, give me the LCP gen 2. The new trigger was not for me. There have been many post about the "Safety aspects of the trigger". I for one was on that side of the fence. Many heated discussions, but at the end we all make our choices. One major old time Custom Holster Places a large Notice of warning on his website that he Refuses to make a Holster for the LCP ll due to his very serious concern over safety. It is what I call a weird trigger. You have about 1/4" of "Nothing" freeplay, feels like the hammer spring is broke, they a 1/4" stack and then all of a sudden a quick Boom. Just not for me.
As far as dependability, they are go to go, but not for longevity. Look at the Kahr Frame and Grip and then look at the LCP's, Notice the difference? The Steel inserts placed by Kahr are just a starting point. Also is the fact that the Kahr is one very mild shooter. It does not have the harsh hand Slap notorious with the LCP's.
The LCP is a good buy, if you can handle the recoil, and don't shoot a lot of rounds. It is not finicky on ammo and Ruger customer service is great. They repaired three of mine and finally sent me a NEW gun. It is retired now, but I learned a lot from that gun shooting so many rounds. My first one went down around 2200 rds. Some consider that a lot, I don't. If the LCP is your cup of tea, my suggestion would be to get the Gen2 while they are still available. I have seen them down as low as $179.00 JMO