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I took my cw380 apart today. Reassembled it and racked the slide several times. Pulling the trigger revealed a different sound than usual. I see that the striker is cocked about half way and won't go forward no matter what I do. Any cures before I call K ? Thanks
 

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Thinking about it, if you can't get the striker forward the cover will probably be a pain to slide off.

I would almost bet the tip has broke off and is sideways blocking the channel.

If it was mine, I would wiggle the striker back and forth to see what happened. Then I would probe the firing pin hole with a paper clip while messing with the striker.
Spent some time probing and in general fiddling around to no avail. You're right it will be difficult to get the plunger back enough to get the cover off. Since the gun is 3 months old is it better to let Kahr handle it or do I risk damaging the spring and plunger getting the cover off? I've sprayed Rem Oil down through the clean out hole and firing pin hole it comes out clean so I don't think there is dirt in there. Watching videos there really isn't much in there that can cause a problem unless the pin or guide fractured.

Being a new conceal carry person, I've probably put 600-800 rounds through it working on improving skills. I love the gun and was actually thinking about splurging and picking up a p380 so I have one as a 'range gun' (also own an M&P 9) and one I can use primarily as carry.

Called Kahr yesterday and went to voice mail...no call back.. Don't know what the weather situation is there maybe they were out. ...frustrating.
 

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I decided to try and remove the cover. It was surprisingly easy. The photos show what I found. Just as you thought Toney, a broken striker! I wonder if Kahr will send me a warranty replacement? I have a question though. The last photo is looking down the striker channel. There is metal protrusion at the end. Is that supposed to be there? It's not loose.
Thanks for all help!

 

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Don't know where that would normally be. I'm talking about the "bulge" like thing at the 12-1 o'clock position of the channel. It is all the way down at the bottom of the channel. I probed it with a paper click and it doesn't move, so I thought I'd ask about it.
 

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That's probably where the tip of the pin stuck. As long as the channel bore is still smooth it shouldn't be a problem.
Do you think it will prevent the striker from traveling forward all the way. If you look down your channel is the bottom totally smooth. Trying to make sure you know where it is....it is on the inside surface of the breech face. Also, I don't think I lost any of the pin.
 

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Ah, thank you for the pictures...sorry if I made you clean your gun! Camera accessory Camera lens Gadget Cameras & optics Camera
Here is mine taken with an actual camera. That 'blob' doesn't belong there. Assuming it has been there all along, every time the gun was fired the striker would hit unevenly causing a torque on the assembly....perhaps causing the fracture. Looks like I'm putting it all back together and sending to Kahr. :sad:

Thanks again for your suggestions and help!
 

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Yea, l thought at first your (post) cw was locked up, you were talkin bout slide only. Didnt read clear enough. I would like to have those screwdrivers to take "side" plate off grip for looking and cleaning.

Also. The spring on the slide release needs to be strong. They should have a change and offer it as mail out or mail cw in. I have worked on keepin fingers off but its a safety issue.

I have 450 rnds thru my cw, straight shooter.
Yeah kahrhauler I thought you were confused at first :) . When I removed the plate, I used a push-pin to push on the extractor rod while pushing/sliding the back plate off. The advantage was that I could use some of the other fingers on that hand to help move and control the plate and springs. It was just a bit trickier controlling everything when putting it back on.

Does anyone know if Kahr frowns upon owners opening up and cleaning the channel. I know the book says they won't honor the warranty if you disassemble the gun more than described in the owner's manual AND it results in the damage. My interpretation is it is okay to do but if you break something, too bad.
 

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As an update...got through to Kahr today. Told them what was wrong, they took down my info, gave me a RA #, and just got my label emailed to me. All done in a couple of minutes! So as soon as this snow passes me by in NC, I'll bring it to FedEx and send it on it's way. I'm really curious what happened. Don't like that kind of failure. Fortunately, I've only found one other instance on the internet.
 

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Being a Liaison type guy I'm wondering how and what this "blob" is. The hole is machined so at one time that blob was not there. So what is it and how did it become stuck to the metal? Could it be knocked loose?
I couldn't knock it loose. The first few times I cleaned the gun there were a lot of steel flakes. I attributed that to breaking it in. I don't have a clue what it might be.
 

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If you get through to tech support please share with me how you did that. I have called and left messages 3 times and even sent a fax and I haven't gotten a responses from them.
I called once, sent an email through their site, and when I called again, I got through. I guess I would advise you to call until you get through. If you choose to leave a message, you may want to number each message and maybe a reminder of when the first message was left. When you have reached your limit, tell them that you will expect a call back that day, or else you will file a formal complaint with the BBB. I haven't had any big problems with Kahr the two times I've contacted them but with other companies when I had a problem, the aforementioned approach got results! :) I love the gun...I'm even splurging and picking up a P380 to go with the CW. One to shoot occasionally and carry. The other to use at the range.
 

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UPDATE: Kahr had my CW380 for a month. I received it back today and they replaced the striker and the extractor. If there was anything wrong with the slide they didn't say. I guess I"m good to go..except I bought a P380 while waiting (my 'total' cost was only about 150 more than the cw) and I think I'm liking it more than the CW380...off to the range this weekend to use both!
 

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Range report...no problems. Ran about 75 rounds through the CW380... I had a bunch of Finocci FMJ and both the 380's do not like it. The CW does a bit better with it but just about every round in the P380 will not fully feed. The nose of the bullet jams at the top of the chamber. Depending on the severity..a slight push or wack on the slide will put it into battery. That problem was expected. A box of Federal ran right through split up between the P380 and the CW380. I guess I can say the striker adventure is closed! Of interesting note....when I bought the P380... it had two mags in the box and one in the gun...ah ha...3 mags...including a 7 rounder!!
 

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Is it me? To review..the striker broke on my CW380 and it went back to Kahr. While it was away, I bought a new P380. Must of had extra $$ around. :) Today after about 12 rounds (it has about 300 rounds through it) , my p380 went 'click'. hmmm empty? No, misfeed? no ..... investigation yields: broken striker, just like my CW380! Not happy about this at all. Could I be doing something? I dry fire a lot to practice. Could that be a contributing factor?
 

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Talked to a Matt at Kahr a couple days ago and he agreed it was very unusual. He commented that they have seen problems when a shell doesn't feed because the casing catches on the still protruding striker. A solid whack on the slide will often be enough to put it fully into battery but if it is hung up on the striker, then it may get damaged in the process. I don't remember doing that on my CW380, but a few posts earlier you can see I was doing just that on the new P380 to work my way through some Fiocchi that wouldn't feed correctly. I didn't think the casing was hung up on the striker though. If it happens again I'll look closely and if it is I'll reach under the slide and pull the striker back. Matt said that is what should be done In any case, they should have received it today....expecting a new striker. I guess I could have done it myself but I'd prefer them to fully examine it and perhaps find a cause. Hate to think there's a bunch of bad parts out there.
 
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