Stupid Mistake - Slide locked halfway on pistol - CW-380

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CaptSteve

Discussion Starter · Dec 23, 2018

I have been having a problem with my slide not locking back with an empty magazine on my CW-380. Following a recommendation on the forum, I removed the slide and inserted the slide lock to check if the slide lock was moving up when an empty magazine is inserted (it did). Then without thinking I started to reinstall the slide with the slide lock still inserted. The slide is now locked partially on. It won't come back off no matter what I do . The slide lock is retained by the slide and cannot be removed.

Extra poor timing on this as it's Christmas weekend, so I can't talk to the factory until Wednesday or maybe January!

Anyone with any experience with this?

I feel naked without my pistol!!!

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spentcase

· #2 · Dec 23, 2018

Tried turning it upside down?

Also, assuming the barrel is in the slide, can you insert a plastic pen in the barrel and leverage it up while trying to removed the slide?

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Leftyis70

· #3 · Dec 24, 2018

If the mag is still in the gun remove it! If you tell me how far back the slide went before "sticking" I would stand a chance of helping you get it unstuck!

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CaptSteve

Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 24, 2018

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CaptSteve

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 24, 2018

Tried both with no luck. Thanks for trying.

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Higgy Baby

· #6 · Dec 24, 2018 (Edited)

Looking at mine?...................

Okay....That slide "MUST" go forward before you can remove the slide lock.
If you can push down on lever- any amount may help?

See that little rounded tit sticking up on the right- that part is caught behind the slide rail. It can not come out as long as it it behind the rail.

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spentcase

· #7 · Dec 24, 2018

Looks to me like you have the stop installed behind the barrel lug, so that's good. Pull the trigger and while holding it back try to move the slide forward. Even with the stop installed, so long as it's behind the barrel lug the slide should move forward, over the top of the stop.

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Higgy Baby

· #8 · Dec 24, 2018

Yep...pull that trigger.

See that little square on left of spring- the trigger may be caught on that? That is on the firing pin assembly....
IF that whats holding- you can pull the slide- the spring will retract....but if you can pull trigger- it should release.

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Higgy Baby

· #9 · Dec 24, 2018

Hang on....... look at trigger? Looking at it

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Higgy Baby

· #10 · Dec 24, 2018

Can you pull trigger?

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Higgy Baby

· #11 · Dec 24, 2018

Yep......I'm pretty sure the trigger has you- caught behind the end of slide.

Don't ask me how I know..........

That little pointed part sticking up right behind the slide is holding you.

It was soooooo easy to slip that slide right over it.

Now....we gotta figure out how to fix this!

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Higgy Baby

· #12 · Dec 24, 2018 (Edited)

Okay.........Got it! Praise the Lord.

You may or may not want to try this........

I put a screwdriver down from top between slide and stop lever...and I gently pried it out. Remove it.

Then push the slide all the way to the rear like I was cocking it. I pulled the trigger and pulled the slide off.

Edit: Slight nick on slide here- not bad, can barely feel it with finger-

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spentcase

· #13 · Dec 24, 2018

He might have to move the slide a fraction to the rear, in order to clear the back of the slide and get the trigger pulled. As long as the trigger is pulled all the way to the rear and held there, (even if it doesn't click), the slide should then move forward. But as I said the slide may need to move backward just a hair in order to be able to pull the trigger all the way back. He may even need to apply some amount of force to gain that fraction, such as by pushing the muzzle against a table or workbench and leaning on it, but only enough to get the little pointed part to clear.

AND MAKE SURE YOUR GUN IS UNLOADED (from memory since you can't check the chamber).

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Higgy Baby

· #14 · Dec 24, 2018

I learned a valuable lesson today..... and fortunately no damage done.

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spentcase

· #15 · Dec 24, 2018

if you mate the slide stop to the slide Higgy you'll see that the slide will move all the way off it to the front without obstruction. What is keeping his slide in place (and yours too), is/was the upper ear of the cocking cam. Once the trigger is pulled and that ear move back and down, with the trigger still pulled the slide should come right off.

Were you unable to pull the trigger back? If so was it because the ear on the cocking cam would not clear the slide back/plate?

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Higgy Baby

· #16 · Dec 24, 2018 (Edited)

I was able to pull the trigger....but it didn't help.

Once I got the slide lock lever out- it was pretty much over with. Push (slide) all the way on, pull trigger, remove.

I didn't intend to push my slide on that far- I was just trying to get close so I could see where the issue was- I pushed too far and found it.

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spentcase

· #17 · Dec 24, 2018

I'm only asking these questions, because I don't know the answers, AND I might just make the same mistake someday.

What was keeping the slide on when the trigger was pulled? Was it because the ear on the cocking cam was still pressed up against the slide back and could not descend?

When you leveraged the slide stop out, how did you do this without having to line up the half-moon cut on the slide? Did you have to actually deform the frame so that the stop's ear wouldn't need to be lined up with the cut (which at that point was too far forward)?

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Higgy Baby

· #18 · Dec 24, 2018

No....the lever was not lined up with the cut out.....when i put pressure on it with the screw driver.... I guess the poly frame gave a little and allowed the lever to pop out. It did leave a tiny mark on the underside of the slide rail- you can barely see it in the photo.

I put the lever back in with the slide off- and looked to see what? may have held it that the lever was involved with but saw nothing?

I still believe it was the trigger cocking mechanism holding the slide on- but how removing the lever released that?....I do not know.
Once the lever was out- I pushed the slide to the rear- then pulled it off- but did have to pull the trigger.

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spentcase

· #19 · Dec 24, 2018

I took one of my slide stops out of its hole and mated it to the slide, also off the frame. That stop slides in the slide's left channel with nothing to prevent the slide from moving forward and all the way out. I'm not going to do what you did and push a slide on with the stop in place so I may never know what was holding it and why whatever it was was no longer doing so after the stop was pushed out. But I'm conjecturing that once the stop was out you were able to move the slide rearward enough so that the locking cam's ear was able to clear the slide plate and move down, freeing the slide.

One thing we could try would be to see if the trigger can be pulled all the way while trying to prevent that ear from moving downward. I have to go to town right now but if I get back and you haven't already tried it, I will. Because if the slide plate is blocking the locking cam from moving down and out of the way without hindering the trigger from being pulled, that would explain it. And if true, moving the slide back even a very small amount rearward after forcing the slide stop out could also free up that ear to move downward. And solve the problem. That's why I suggested pushing the muzzle against a workbench earlier.

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Higgy Baby

· #20 · Dec 24, 2018

I think the barrel lug will hit the lever.....but?...its spring loaded and you should be able to push against it- like you said.

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