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I was going to run some Magtech 380 FMJ 95 grain through my new Kahr 380. But from what I read here, that's a good way to tear up the Kahr 380 and send it in for service.

From my searching the message board, it looks like Remington UMC FMJ 95 grain may be a good practice round that doesn't jam too often and won't tear up the gun?

I couldn't wait to get the gun, now I'm afraid to shoot it. :)

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I was going to run some Magtech 380 FMJ 95 grain through my new Kahr 380. But from what I read here, that's a good way to tear up the Kahr 380 and send it in for service.

From my searching the message board, it looks like Remington UMC FMJ 95 grain may be a good practice round that doesn't jam too often and won't tear up the gun?

I couldn't wait to get the gun, now I'm afraid to shoot it. :)

Josh
Not magtech, good ammo. MAG SAFE. bad ammo. There is a distinct difference. Hardly no one recommends mag safe. Just shoot ur P380 like you stole it. I will talk to you about what it likes and dislikes. Mine will shoot anything but 102 grain golden sabres. The hit the slide stop lever and will cause (in mine kanyhow) premature slide locking open, so I just stay away from it. I presently shoot the corbon 90 hp and it is a heh of a great round and feeds perfect...

USE THE SLIDE LOCK LEVE RTO LOAD THE FIRST ROUND IN UR P380 as the manual states to do. For me it is a bugger to rack reliability, due to small in size and extremely stout recoil springs..
 

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This board has references to Magtech (not Mag safe) being bad ammo for the Kahr 380. Have you run Magtech through the kahr?



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MrBond said:
I was going to run some Magtech 380 FMJ 95 grain through my new Kahr 380. But from what I read here, that's a good way to tear up the Kahr 380 and send it in for service.

From my searching the message board, it looks like Remington UMC FMJ 95 grain may be a good practice round that doesn't jam too often and won't tear up the gun?

I couldn't wait to get the gun, now I'm afraid to shoot it. :)

Josh
Not magtech, good ammo. MAG SAFE. bad ammo. There is a distinct difference. Hardly no one recommends mag safe. Just shoot ur P380 like you stole it. I will talk to you about what it likes and dislikes. Mine will shoot anything but 102 grain golden sabres. The hit the slide stop lever and will cause (in mine kanyhow) premature slide locking open, so I just stay away from it. I presently shoot the corbon 90 hp and it is a heh of a great round and feeds perfect...

USE THE SLIDE LOCK LEVE RTO LOAD THE FIRST ROUND IN UR P380 as the manual states to do. For me it is a bugger to rack reliability, due to small in size and extremely stout recoil springs..
 

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It was I who posted problems with Magtech ammo, but it was specifically the LRN rounds, as I have fired the Magtech FMJ with no issues. The reason why I believe it to be the ammo is that I broke in Both an LCP and a P380 with them and had FTF and return to battery issues. IMO it also caused the premature slide lock issues I had, as I think the softer lead would engage the slidelock as opposed to the smoother, harder FMJ rounds in which it would just slide past. Also lead+poly barrels= not good mix. I just happened to have a crapfull of the rounds from my fathers collection of ammo. In short Magtech FMJ good, Lead bad.

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not sure I would shoot lead bullets out of my P380, Polygonal rifled barrles it is a no no anyways. to me even a cheap ass round.

that being said, it probably should work ok my point in clarification was that the mag safe rounds are considered dangerous rounds to shoot, where as the mag tech ammo is not dangerous, although u stated u had issues with it, but I don't consider the mag tech as dangerous ammo.

I have never shot their lead bullets, but have shot thousands of fmj ammo with zero issues. Actually I never knew mag tech made ln 380 ammo with lead bullets..... With all this EPA crap, I would have thought they quit making anything with lead,
 

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where are you guys getting all of this .380, anyways?

I have had my Kahr ordered for about half a year (a little less), and I've not found one single bullet of .380. Walmart is always out, the local stores are always out, and the websites are always out :p

If you have a source, let me know!
 

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where are you guys getting all of this .380, anyways?

I have had my Kahr ordered for about half a year (a little less), and I've not found one single bullet of .380. Walmart is always out, the local stores are always out, and the websites are always out :p

If you have a source, let me know!
for sure it is hit and miss. My local wal-mart has not had any 380 ammo all this year, and when any 9mm comes in, it is gone by days end also. ur not along trust me on this..
 

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You have to monitor sites like this and use the internet ammo sources. I've had luck lately online with both .380acp and .32acp. Have gotten it from natchezss.com and cabela.com Once the word gets out their stocks go pretty fast.
 

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What would you all consider a good price for .380 ACP?

I have found Mag Tech 250 rounds for 100 bucks, so 40 cents per round.

I have also found S&B 250 rounds for 100 bucks, again 40 cents per round.

The bulk packs seem to be the same price as the individual boxes.

Any thoughts?


Also what is a fair price for 9mm? based on the best prices around, (Walmart), it seems it can be had for about 16 cent around, but I would be happy for 20.

My local market offers them for about 33 cents a round.
 

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That sounds about right for the current price of .380. Either online or LGSs I've been paying $18 - $20 for a box of 50 FMJ (Fiocchi, PMC, Magtech or Prvi) and $22 - $23 for a box of 20 JHP (Corbon or Powerball). Can't help with the cost of 9mm.
 

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You could buy a cheap Lee reloading setup including a bullet mold, along with 1M rounds of brass from GB. From then on you can shoot for less than 4 cents a round. You will probably lose your brass before it wears out. I still have some brass from 1983 in my circulation

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I was really disappointed when I first got my Kahr p380. I had a lot of failures to feed, stove pipes, and the slide prematurely locking back. I sent it back to the factory twice, and 'found Kahr's service people really responsive. After the last 'send back', the pistol has worked great. The Winchester white box ammo at times still fails to feed, but not like it was doing. It appears the "nose" of the shell is too blunt to feed reliably, even after the feed ramp has been polished...(my opinion). I've used Hornady Critical Defense a number of times and never had a problem with it. Hornady is more expensive, but it works for me.
 
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